The IRA operates in Northern Ireland, which is part of the UK but not part of Great Britain. "British" can refer to something relating to Great Britain but it can and often is used to mean something relating to the United Kingdom. Therefore, the IRA is appropriate to include in a quiz about British things.
The IRA clearly does not see themselves as British, hence they shouldn't be included in the quiz. With that logic, any organisation that's ever operated on British soil could be part of the quiz
The quiz's description says 'related to the British Isles'. Not 'things that are British'. As the IRA operates within the British Isles, geographically speaking before one looks at Eire and Ulster differences, they are welcome in this quiz.
The IRA was formed in the early 1900s, opposed to British rule of the United Kingdom (of GB & Ireland). Therefore it originated in the UK as it was then - where's the problem?
As a Brit, I knew what a lot of them referred to, but had to think about what they stood for. Mostly I guessed. Most of them I never hear used. "OED" I normally hear just called "the dictionary". "TA" I tend to hear the full form. "HoC" I have always heard in full form. You get the picture.
Do you always specify the dictionary you use? If I check a dictionary I just say let me check the dictionary, no matter the publisher. (for everyday use, like each member of my family have other dictionaries and I never name the publishers. But for instance if you are on a site discussing origins of words I can imagine one mentions "this is what the OED" says. Or something along those lines. In cases the source really matters.
Actually because there are other dictionaries you use that word, it is an umbrella term for all of them. Just like when I ask someone if they are gonna come by car, I say car and not a specific make because there are many of them and in this example the make doesnt matter. Implying someone that uses the word car would therefore think there is only one make would be odd..
Yeah, that was the one I had never heard before. I hadn't a clue on it. I got the rest straight away. It's either called by it's full, unabbreviated, name in my experience or it's just called 'the dictionary' and used in a more generic sense.
I think it may be one, like EPL, used by people outside the UK and virtually no one in the UK.
Yes, I couldn't work out EPL until the "English" had been given to me - then it was obvious. I didn't know EPL was ever used as an acronym. SPL, on the other hand...
Erm, yes! The C in BBC does not stand for Company, so why on earth should it be accepted? There used to be a British Broadcasting Company in the 1920s, but that was distinct from the BBC we now have.
The British Broadcasting Company was dissolved and no longer exists. It's now known as the British Broadcasting Corporation. They are two different things.
OBE stands for 'Officer of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire' in the same way that CBE stands for 'Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire'. The O in OBE stands for 'Officer' not 'Order'.
At last! A Local quiz for Local people (sorry, Brit comedy reference.) Had to scratch my head a little over EPL. I suppose we just think of it as THE Premier League! So arrogant....
Considering this is a "British Acronyms" quiz, it most certainly should not be the EPL. Maybe the title should be changed to "British Acronyms for non-Brits" - then EPL would be acceptable. We "think" of it as the Premier League, because that's its name.
It's really funny that everywhere else on JetPunk the shorter forms are the norm for the most famous examples and no clarification is needed (World Series, World Cup, Renaissance etc, also FA), except here.
We could make a quiz about American abbreviations and also invent a few acronyms like AMLB, NANHL etc
I understand that the UK has a prime minister and has a value-added tax but why include them in "British Acronyms"? Most other countries have a PM as well and even more have a VAT.
Why on earth don't you read the title explanation before you start pontificating to show just what a clever clogs you are or, in this case, aren't?
The title says "British Isles". The British Isles, as distinct from the United Kingdom, includes South Ireland/Ireland/Eire, whichever way you like to refer to the Republic of Ireland, and so any acronym that might be used in Dublin's fair city could be included since Dublin, and Ireland, are in the British Isles. That's a fact of Geography and has no political basis.
A valuable comment indeed! There seem to be very few commenters who read or care about the explanation/information. In addition to saying "British Isles," it also says "related to," not "universally accepted and used by all inhabitants of the British Isles."
100% on the money. In fact to me an IRA is an Individual Retirement Account. The Irish Republican Army is the I.R.A. However many abbreviations have become accepted as acronyms even though, grammatically, they are not.
So that BP station where I filled up my car this morning wasn't a British Petroleum station? I guess I'd better call them and let them know that they need to take down that sign.
Indeed - there was a bit of a uproar in certain parts of the British Media when, after Deepwater Horizon, Obama kept saying BRITISH petroleum (with that emphasis) to describe a half-American company that had changed its name to simply BP a good decade or more previously.
Apparently I dont know how to spell cooperation (hm according to spellcheck it IS ok like this.. I guess I have allways thought they were the same word or something) and other ones I didnt know were LSE, OBE, SNP ow and TA and VC (but got words of most of them). I thought I did pretty well, but still only beat half of the people. I guess some people avoid this quiz and the demographics of this quiz is different than usual.
The quiz claims to be about terms relating to the British Isles. The PM answer given seems far more specific than PM for time (which is often lowercase), as does the TA answer. I believe EPL is widely used outside the UK to refer to the Premier League. Might seem silly to include it then but the quiz says nothing about these terms being widely used by Brits. So same for HoC, even thought comments above clearly refute your claim that it's "never used." I really don't, on the whole, understand comments like this.
One single commenter claims HoC as a genuine acronym. If anyone can show me just one single example of it (google it - I just spent the last ten minutes trying btw) I shall admit I’m wrong. Until then, there is no such thing as a HoC.
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Actually because there are other dictionaries you use that word, it is an umbrella term for all of them. Just like when I ask someone if they are gonna come by car, I say car and not a specific make because there are many of them and in this example the make doesnt matter. Implying someone that uses the word car would therefore think there is only one make would be odd..
I think it may be one, like EPL, used by people outside the UK and virtually no one in the UK.
We could make a quiz about American abbreviations and also invent a few acronyms like AMLB, NANHL etc
The title says "British Isles". The British Isles, as distinct from the United Kingdom, includes South Ireland/Ireland/Eire, whichever way you like to refer to the Republic of Ireland, and so any acronym that might be used in Dublin's fair city could be included since Dublin, and Ireland, are in the British Isles. That's a fact of Geography and has no political basis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym
EPL is rarely used in the UK.
HoC is a fiction - this is never used as an acronym. The Commons or the upper chamber.
TA is a teaching assistant
This quiz is, on the whole, poorly thought out.
Full Stop.
Period.
You’re my wife now…
"Hoc or HOC may refer to:
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House of Commons, a legislative body of elected representatives in various countries"
It's literally never used in the UK.
The EPL is tenuous as we rarely call the Premier League the EPL but HoC is never used by anyone in the UK.